Serious question for those opposed to oil pipelines: Why do you oppose them? Several things that make me wonder. For the foreseeable future we will continue to rely on fossil fuels, even as alternative and renewables come online. Aren't pipelines safer than transporting oil and fuels by rail or truck? Given how clean it burns why is there opposition natural gas pipelines? Since the US gave up on nuclear power years ago, aren't we going to need fossil fuels to generate electricity for many decades yet, especially as the share of electrically powered cars increases? I get being against something, but what's the better alternative after stopping pipelines? This is not a troll. I'm interested in your point of view.
Pipeline activists expected Biden to keep his promises? Seriously? After all this time one would think they would know better ... I am beginning to wonder if idealism and naivete are joined at the hip ... How many of these folks voted for him? Why? Did they believe It was either that or Trump? Another LOTE election? ... but doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of ..... There was another choice more in sync with their cause so why didn't they choose that? Every time I ask this question I get "3rd parties can't win". But that's BS, any candidate on a ballot can win if enough folks vote for 'em.
And TPTB know this too, so, as we concentrate on voter suppression, we pay no attention to the "poison pills" stuck in the much heralded HR1 that make it almost impossible for 3rd parties to even get on the ballot - just in case enough of us figure out that a particular 3rd party is actually what we want and would actually vote for. So, great, more and more folks can vote for either Tweedle dee or Tweedle dum - Yippee, what a victory for democracy!
And nobody - independent journalists included, seem to have noticed this or give a flying fu**
I think Biden made a huge mistake cancelling the Keystone Pipeline. All the jobs are now dead and most of the pipeline was already completed. Will that oil be safer now traveling by train or truck?
The only sonic weapons I saw in that video were the tired old hippy chants. Seriously annoying.
I though the native people didn't believe that land was "owned" by anyone -how then does this break a treaty?
Honestly, it's a non-news-event when reporting that Biden is the same old, same old.
He's been a puppet that dances on the money strings for his entire career. How is this a revelation?
A friend of mine who was acting chief for a period up in British Columbia reports to me that the tribal councils all got together and agreed that the Keystone pipeline was going to be a good thing and they were going to be compensated well for it -and have cheaper oil.
This is seven or eight tribal chiefs coming together to agree on something: rare but they were happy with the agreement -until the white hippies showed up and started protesting.
He said they were offering free beer to the few natives who DID join their protests and that they didn't represent the tribes there at all. They were the people who ALWAYS cause trouble and are usually out-of-their-mind-drunk by 10PM every night and really embarrassing. They don't represent any councils or band governments.
I don't see the point. Every iota of fossil fuels will be burnt until it runs out. Why? It's cheap energy. Even a government that agreed to curb it's use would be overthrown or dominated by those who are willing to use the cheap energy. Look at China. The use of this energy enables economic and ultimately military hegemony.
Under the circumstances, those trying to stop pipelines and such are tilting at windmills. Why do things that can only have impact in the smallest ways? Might as well belly up to the trough until the music stops playing, in the worst kind of mixed metaphor. Get the tribe some money for that pipeline.
I wonder if Warren Buffet pays the protestors more than minimum wage, do they have employer paid insurance, taxes withheld, railroad workers pensions, etc. Maybe the IRS and OSHA should look in on these activities.
There is something you might want to look into Mr. Tabbi. Remember when they had the Standing Rock Pipeline protests? There was a lot of shady actions from federal authorities from the little I could find out about it. Then there was the Bundy Standoff. If you ever read the Judge's affidavit about why she threw the case out with prejudice, you will find out how little the "official" story met reality. I would be interested in someone digging deeper into the use of federal lands and how federal officials abuse their power in conjunction with media support to get their way time and again.
"Activists say the development violates treaties and will have serious environmental consequences, and the Biden administration has been conspicuously silent about it."
When has the United States government or the banking/energy/war-making profiteers that own it ever had any qualms about violating treaties?
Besides: The US Is Not Agreement Capable Because It Is Ungovernable. The presidents and the administrations are not in charge. The permanent regime (whose representatives I mentioned above) is.
The day of two paths is about ripe. When treaties are broken, they are no longer valid. Each party then takes the actions that they see fit, according to intuition and discernment. Sometimes, those are not popular or politically "correct", but they are right in the eyes of your spirit. So, choose. As children of the earth, it is our responsibility to protect her, or perish as fools. There is no differentiation between banks, governments, and corporations. Black Rock, Bill Gates, Amazon, are but a few among the giants who are land grabbing; staking a claim in the end game they call the Great Reset. Strategic survival of the elites through collapse. The creation of covert covid weapons of mass destruction, lead the masses to take their "medicine" to get the carrot; the freedoms taken from you, with your consent. Ivermectin suppression, censorship of professors and wise elders. The ancestors knew, nobody owns a planet! As if they created it themselves! Ha! The light laughs from beyond the veil. Indigenous law will surely rise through the ashes of our humiliation. Communities that feed themselves carry the ability to free themselves. Everything is energy. It's all a game. Who represents your interests? What do you value? Be your own guru! Peace, peace, peace.
I assume they all walked to the protest? This country is going to destroy itself while China marches on. We are fools.
Nuclear power is the cleanest and most efficient energy source out there, but American society has a knee jerk rejection of it.
Serious question for those opposed to oil pipelines: Why do you oppose them? Several things that make me wonder. For the foreseeable future we will continue to rely on fossil fuels, even as alternative and renewables come online. Aren't pipelines safer than transporting oil and fuels by rail or truck? Given how clean it burns why is there opposition natural gas pipelines? Since the US gave up on nuclear power years ago, aren't we going to need fossil fuels to generate electricity for many decades yet, especially as the share of electrically powered cars increases? I get being against something, but what's the better alternative after stopping pipelines? This is not a troll. I'm interested in your point of view.
Pipeline activists expected Biden to keep his promises? Seriously? After all this time one would think they would know better ... I am beginning to wonder if idealism and naivete are joined at the hip ... How many of these folks voted for him? Why? Did they believe It was either that or Trump? Another LOTE election? ... but doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of ..... There was another choice more in sync with their cause so why didn't they choose that? Every time I ask this question I get "3rd parties can't win". But that's BS, any candidate on a ballot can win if enough folks vote for 'em.
And TPTB know this too, so, as we concentrate on voter suppression, we pay no attention to the "poison pills" stuck in the much heralded HR1 that make it almost impossible for 3rd parties to even get on the ballot - just in case enough of us figure out that a particular 3rd party is actually what we want and would actually vote for. So, great, more and more folks can vote for either Tweedle dee or Tweedle dum - Yippee, what a victory for democracy!
And nobody - independent journalists included, seem to have noticed this or give a flying fu**
I think Biden made a huge mistake cancelling the Keystone Pipeline. All the jobs are now dead and most of the pipeline was already completed. Will that oil be safer now traveling by train or truck?
I don't understand the left's hostility to fossil fuels. Climate catastrophism is mighty thin gruel.
Biden - bigger disappointment than Obama
"Nothing will fundamentally change."
{Joe Biden}
The only sonic weapons I saw in that video were the tired old hippy chants. Seriously annoying.
I though the native people didn't believe that land was "owned" by anyone -how then does this break a treaty?
Honestly, it's a non-news-event when reporting that Biden is the same old, same old.
He's been a puppet that dances on the money strings for his entire career. How is this a revelation?
A friend of mine who was acting chief for a period up in British Columbia reports to me that the tribal councils all got together and agreed that the Keystone pipeline was going to be a good thing and they were going to be compensated well for it -and have cheaper oil.
This is seven or eight tribal chiefs coming together to agree on something: rare but they were happy with the agreement -until the white hippies showed up and started protesting.
He said they were offering free beer to the few natives who DID join their protests and that they didn't represent the tribes there at all. They were the people who ALWAYS cause trouble and are usually out-of-their-mind-drunk by 10PM every night and really embarrassing. They don't represent any councils or band governments.
This looks a lot like that to me.
I don't see the point. Every iota of fossil fuels will be burnt until it runs out. Why? It's cheap energy. Even a government that agreed to curb it's use would be overthrown or dominated by those who are willing to use the cheap energy. Look at China. The use of this energy enables economic and ultimately military hegemony.
Under the circumstances, those trying to stop pipelines and such are tilting at windmills. Why do things that can only have impact in the smallest ways? Might as well belly up to the trough until the music stops playing, in the worst kind of mixed metaphor. Get the tribe some money for that pipeline.
I wonder if Warren Buffet pays the protestors more than minimum wage, do they have employer paid insurance, taxes withheld, railroad workers pensions, etc. Maybe the IRS and OSHA should look in on these activities.
There is something you might want to look into Mr. Tabbi. Remember when they had the Standing Rock Pipeline protests? There was a lot of shady actions from federal authorities from the little I could find out about it. Then there was the Bundy Standoff. If you ever read the Judge's affidavit about why she threw the case out with prejudice, you will find out how little the "official" story met reality. I would be interested in someone digging deeper into the use of federal lands and how federal officials abuse their power in conjunction with media support to get their way time and again.
"Activists say the development violates treaties and will have serious environmental consequences, and the Biden administration has been conspicuously silent about it."
When has the United States government or the banking/energy/war-making profiteers that own it ever had any qualms about violating treaties?
Besides: The US Is Not Agreement Capable Because It Is Ungovernable. The presidents and the administrations are not in charge. The permanent regime (whose representatives I mentioned above) is.
https://anti-empire.com/the-us-is-not-agreement-capable-because-it-is-ungovernable/
I apologize for the following comment.
Tribal elders say, "Casinos...destroy lives...bring much wampum to tribe. Casinos good.
Pipeline...keeps country running...brings no wampum to tribe. Pipeline bad."
You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming. Please don't forget to pick up your Great Spirit coaster set on your way out.
Pipeline protests exist to protect the railroad oil shipment business
The day of two paths is about ripe. When treaties are broken, they are no longer valid. Each party then takes the actions that they see fit, according to intuition and discernment. Sometimes, those are not popular or politically "correct", but they are right in the eyes of your spirit. So, choose. As children of the earth, it is our responsibility to protect her, or perish as fools. There is no differentiation between banks, governments, and corporations. Black Rock, Bill Gates, Amazon, are but a few among the giants who are land grabbing; staking a claim in the end game they call the Great Reset. Strategic survival of the elites through collapse. The creation of covert covid weapons of mass destruction, lead the masses to take their "medicine" to get the carrot; the freedoms taken from you, with your consent. Ivermectin suppression, censorship of professors and wise elders. The ancestors knew, nobody owns a planet! As if they created it themselves! Ha! The light laughs from beyond the veil. Indigenous law will surely rise through the ashes of our humiliation. Communities that feed themselves carry the ability to free themselves. Everything is energy. It's all a game. Who represents your interests? What do you value? Be your own guru! Peace, peace, peace.