Not to be a big wiener head but the really interesting demonstrations are not occurring amongst people dumb enough to believe Joe Biden's mumbled word salad.
The really interesting demonstrations are occurring in Europe where people are actually uniting in solidarity over vaccine mandates.
Solidarity you say? What the fuck is that?
No it's not a deodorant sold in Poland in the 80s. And no, you can't buy it on Amazon.
It's when the vaxxed in Italy burn their green passes to show support for the unvaxxed and their basic human rights.
Human rights you ask? What the fuck are they? (Topic of another lecture.)
It's when huge numbers of the vaxxed & the unvaxxed take to the streets together and remind their leaders all the things about democracy that said leaders have evidently forgotten.
As a response to this outpouring of democracy, the Belgium authorities seem to favor water cannons, tear gas & truncheons. While the German authorities seem to prefer a more hands on approach where they just face plant your unvaxxed ass into the concrete. Pepper spray is also quite popular. I've seen more grandpas splayed out with 5 cops on their backs in the last few weeks than I ever thought I'd see in reality. But like the one cop told the unvaxxed fellow, "The unvaxxed aren't human."
Gee that's not a recipe for a pogrom is it?
Luckily the news media is blaming all the violence on right wing extremists and not the government who we all know only want what's best for us all.
Huh. Well, if I read this right, you seem to believe that this Build Back Better Bill is something that will actually benefit poor people instead of being wasted by a totally incompetent government and adding to our national debt exponentially. It will also include all kinds of garbage that curtails freedom. I am with you on allowing people to protest, though I haven't heard why they were arrested yet, either. I doubt they'll be held long. Leftists are usually allowed to protest and ruin cities without many consequences.
I've been a fan of Rev. Barber's message, which has been about uniting poor and working people of all ethnicities, and he's not deeply embedded in damaging identity politics. Like an old school leftist.
I have to wonder about his aligning with the zombie Biden administration, and especially this broken, neoliberal Build Back Better legislation which anyone can see will be a bunch of Obamacare-like policies that hurt more than they help. It's obvious. They should be fighting its passing, if anything. Manchin is likely the rotating villain for a dozen or more senators unwilling to vote for this legislation, if anything, but there are way more moderate Democrats that would empathize with him than with the squad. The demonization of him is counterproductive, at best.
And why block the roadways? I always dislike stories being presented as "arrested for a protest," when they weren't arrested for a protest; they were arrested for blocking a roadway. The police seemed totally reasonable here. I always think this stuff hurts a progressive movement. There are working people who get stuck in traffic and decide that they're not voting with these people.
This is all akin to throwing a movement in several gears of reverse. Let's get real here.
Maybe one day, people will figure out that selling your personal welfare and soul to the state has tremendous costs. But maybe not. Biden inflation will destroy any gains the lower class make from this while the usual empowered class will cash in, again. Same story, different day.
I grew up in a blue collar, ethnic family in a blue collar ethnic New England Town. I turn 69 in a few days. My parents were JFK Dems. JFK would be Joe Manchin now.
I didn’t watch to the end. But if you’re in the middle of the street and a police officer warns you multiple times to leave, move to a sidewalk. Unless your goal is confrontation, arrest and coverage. If nobody got abused during the process, I don’t see anything wrong here. Even if your cause is righteous doesn’t mean you have to be so self-righteous about expressing it.
Amazing the degree to which people will fight for something they know little or nothing about. Ask any one of them to provide a single citation from The BBB bill and you’ll get a blank stare. That bill has about as much chance of helping those in need as the Affordable Care Act had of providing low-cost healthcare. DC well knows that a clever title coupled with an ascertain that to question even a single part of said bill is tantamount to [insert ad hominem here] is all that’s needed to convince the feeble-minded to fight for something guaranteed to offer them no benefit whatsoever. But let’s face it, in all likelihood those people were paid to hold that demonstration.
Federal takeover of voting doesn't portend a well for functioning liberal democracy. A sea of mail-in ballots allowed for self-styled, partisan vote navigators," vote harvesters -- we'll take that for you -- partisan activists working for municipal elections, no proof of ID when we need it for buying cottage cheese. Build Back Better-- another euphemism used by hacks who assume an average I.Q. of 6- is loaded with one-party aspirations and obeying the increasingly insane base.
I still can't believe that this guy thinks that the "Biden" administration's Build Back Better bill will ... help the poor.
This is the mind of a 7th grade girl listening to Cat Stevens records, breathing heavily while thinking about helping the downtrodden. Off the charts naive.
I think your assessment in penultimate paragraph is correct, which, begging his pardon, makes Reverend Barber a "useful idiot." What is bewildering to me is the belief that the folks who have presided over all of this for the last 50 years have the ability, let alone the desire, to craft policy that will actually help create better conditions for the poor. Yeah, just get rid of Manchin and everything will be (built back) better! LMFAO There is no soul crushing inflation, and it doesn't hurt the poor. (Krugman told me so!) And BBB will not continue that inflationary spire. It won't be chock full of worthless spending delegated to politcally savvy contractors who will launder a significant proportion back to those in power. Give me a break
Thank you - this is TRULY invaluable. And -- it is more and more likely -- in 2024 elections it will be a repeat of HILLARY versus TRUMP (if there will even be elections)
-- Biden and DNC War party strategy: "Pinching Pennies for People – but Endless Cash for War".
-- $300 B to extremely wealthy -- definition of Biden's "transformative" presidency “Build Back Better framework” and DNC "party" of oligarchs and corruption !! Biden is as much DNC and US War party fraud as Obama, Trump and Hillary.
-- Cowardly Bernie Sanders missed one opportunity in HUNDRED years -- to unmask the modern "original sin" -- DNC-CIA scam of the century -- the Russia-gate hoax. Our beloved country would look VERY different if he had courage to stand up and unmask Hillary-Obama-Biden Russia-gate concoction.
-- Who will be the first Dem politician to state it publicly while we are hurling in the NEW Cold war with Russia, a CAPITALIST country for 31+ years...
-- Anything "left" has left Dems long ago -- like GOP, they’re aristocrats and authoritarians whose idea of heaven is a Dick Cheney spy state with unlimited censorship and a press corps of obedient snitches.
“ I think the Biden administration got what it wanted — a record $768 billion defense bill, a stalled social package, and folks like Reverend Barber doing the president a favor by generating video of anti-poverty activists getting themselves arrested marching under the banner of his slogan. But, who knows? Maybe between now and the “Low-wage workers’ assembly” demonstration planned for next June 18th, protests like this will apply the desired pressure.”
Too bad Barbervcant see the forest from the trees with respect to BuildBackBetter(TM). He and his followers have no idea what pawns they are. As a pro-worker movement, they are protesting for precisely the opposite result than their interests would logically lead them.
I have to say that Rev. Barber's recent defense of Kamala Harris where he accused people criticizing her of being sexist and racist has put me off of him.
All you really need to know about the odds of the average people in this country benefiting from any bill passed in Washington was addressed in the Gilens and Page study that was published in 2014. It measured the level of representation the public receives from Washington over two decades. The result was little to none.
The reason is obvious. The donor class has bought up every institution in this country. The government works for private interests. The public is on the outside looking in. It’s the new feudalism.
Check out the classic George Carlin video “It’s a Big Club and You Ain’t In It.”
Not to be a big wiener head but the really interesting demonstrations are not occurring amongst people dumb enough to believe Joe Biden's mumbled word salad.
The really interesting demonstrations are occurring in Europe where people are actually uniting in solidarity over vaccine mandates.
Solidarity you say? What the fuck is that?
No it's not a deodorant sold in Poland in the 80s. And no, you can't buy it on Amazon.
It's when the vaxxed in Italy burn their green passes to show support for the unvaxxed and their basic human rights.
Human rights you ask? What the fuck are they? (Topic of another lecture.)
It's when huge numbers of the vaxxed & the unvaxxed take to the streets together and remind their leaders all the things about democracy that said leaders have evidently forgotten.
As a response to this outpouring of democracy, the Belgium authorities seem to favor water cannons, tear gas & truncheons. While the German authorities seem to prefer a more hands on approach where they just face plant your unvaxxed ass into the concrete. Pepper spray is also quite popular. I've seen more grandpas splayed out with 5 cops on their backs in the last few weeks than I ever thought I'd see in reality. But like the one cop told the unvaxxed fellow, "The unvaxxed aren't human."
Gee that's not a recipe for a pogrom is it?
Luckily the news media is blaming all the violence on right wing extremists and not the government who we all know only want what's best for us all.
Damn, you right wingers are insidious.
Huh. Well, if I read this right, you seem to believe that this Build Back Better Bill is something that will actually benefit poor people instead of being wasted by a totally incompetent government and adding to our national debt exponentially. It will also include all kinds of garbage that curtails freedom. I am with you on allowing people to protest, though I haven't heard why they were arrested yet, either. I doubt they'll be held long. Leftists are usually allowed to protest and ruin cities without many consequences.
I've been a fan of Rev. Barber's message, which has been about uniting poor and working people of all ethnicities, and he's not deeply embedded in damaging identity politics. Like an old school leftist.
I have to wonder about his aligning with the zombie Biden administration, and especially this broken, neoliberal Build Back Better legislation which anyone can see will be a bunch of Obamacare-like policies that hurt more than they help. It's obvious. They should be fighting its passing, if anything. Manchin is likely the rotating villain for a dozen or more senators unwilling to vote for this legislation, if anything, but there are way more moderate Democrats that would empathize with him than with the squad. The demonization of him is counterproductive, at best.
And why block the roadways? I always dislike stories being presented as "arrested for a protest," when they weren't arrested for a protest; they were arrested for blocking a roadway. The police seemed totally reasonable here. I always think this stuff hurts a progressive movement. There are working people who get stuck in traffic and decide that they're not voting with these people.
This is all akin to throwing a movement in several gears of reverse. Let's get real here.
Maybe one day, people will figure out that selling your personal welfare and soul to the state has tremendous costs. But maybe not. Biden inflation will destroy any gains the lower class make from this while the usual empowered class will cash in, again. Same story, different day.
I grew up in a blue collar, ethnic family in a blue collar ethnic New England Town. I turn 69 in a few days. My parents were JFK Dems. JFK would be Joe Manchin now.
I am puzzled. Shutting down the economy and then boosting government spending seems like madness to me. And I am not generally a fisical conservative
I didn’t watch to the end. But if you’re in the middle of the street and a police officer warns you multiple times to leave, move to a sidewalk. Unless your goal is confrontation, arrest and coverage. If nobody got abused during the process, I don’t see anything wrong here. Even if your cause is righteous doesn’t mean you have to be so self-righteous about expressing it.
Amazing the degree to which people will fight for something they know little or nothing about. Ask any one of them to provide a single citation from The BBB bill and you’ll get a blank stare. That bill has about as much chance of helping those in need as the Affordable Care Act had of providing low-cost healthcare. DC well knows that a clever title coupled with an ascertain that to question even a single part of said bill is tantamount to [insert ad hominem here] is all that’s needed to convince the feeble-minded to fight for something guaranteed to offer them no benefit whatsoever. But let’s face it, in all likelihood those people were paid to hold that demonstration.
Federal takeover of voting doesn't portend a well for functioning liberal democracy. A sea of mail-in ballots allowed for self-styled, partisan vote navigators," vote harvesters -- we'll take that for you -- partisan activists working for municipal elections, no proof of ID when we need it for buying cottage cheese. Build Back Better-- another euphemism used by hacks who assume an average I.Q. of 6- is loaded with one-party aspirations and obeying the increasingly insane base.
I suppose getting arrested is better than getting shot in the neck.
I still can't believe that this guy thinks that the "Biden" administration's Build Back Better bill will ... help the poor.
This is the mind of a 7th grade girl listening to Cat Stevens records, breathing heavily while thinking about helping the downtrodden. Off the charts naive.
I think your assessment in penultimate paragraph is correct, which, begging his pardon, makes Reverend Barber a "useful idiot." What is bewildering to me is the belief that the folks who have presided over all of this for the last 50 years have the ability, let alone the desire, to craft policy that will actually help create better conditions for the poor. Yeah, just get rid of Manchin and everything will be (built back) better! LMFAO There is no soul crushing inflation, and it doesn't hurt the poor. (Krugman told me so!) And BBB will not continue that inflationary spire. It won't be chock full of worthless spending delegated to politcally savvy contractors who will launder a significant proportion back to those in power. Give me a break
Thank you - this is TRULY invaluable. And -- it is more and more likely -- in 2024 elections it will be a repeat of HILLARY versus TRUMP (if there will even be elections)
-- Biden and DNC War party strategy: "Pinching Pennies for People – but Endless Cash for War".
-- $300 B to extremely wealthy -- definition of Biden's "transformative" presidency “Build Back Better framework” and DNC "party" of oligarchs and corruption !! Biden is as much DNC and US War party fraud as Obama, Trump and Hillary.
-- Cowardly Bernie Sanders missed one opportunity in HUNDRED years -- to unmask the modern "original sin" -- DNC-CIA scam of the century -- the Russia-gate hoax. Our beloved country would look VERY different if he had courage to stand up and unmask Hillary-Obama-Biden Russia-gate concoction.
-- Who will be the first Dem politician to state it publicly while we are hurling in the NEW Cold war with Russia, a CAPITALIST country for 31+ years...
-- Anything "left" has left Dems long ago -- like GOP, they’re aristocrats and authoritarians whose idea of heaven is a Dick Cheney spy state with unlimited censorship and a press corps of obedient snitches.
“ I think the Biden administration got what it wanted — a record $768 billion defense bill, a stalled social package, and folks like Reverend Barber doing the president a favor by generating video of anti-poverty activists getting themselves arrested marching under the banner of his slogan. But, who knows? Maybe between now and the “Low-wage workers’ assembly” demonstration planned for next June 18th, protests like this will apply the desired pressure.”
Too bad Barbervcant see the forest from the trees with respect to BuildBackBetter(TM). He and his followers have no idea what pawns they are. As a pro-worker movement, they are protesting for precisely the opposite result than their interests would logically lead them.
I have to say that Rev. Barber's recent defense of Kamala Harris where he accused people criticizing her of being sexist and racist has put me off of him.
All you really need to know about the odds of the average people in this country benefiting from any bill passed in Washington was addressed in the Gilens and Page study that was published in 2014. It measured the level of representation the public receives from Washington over two decades. The result was little to none.
The reason is obvious. The donor class has bought up every institution in this country. The government works for private interests. The public is on the outside looking in. It’s the new feudalism.
Check out the classic George Carlin video “It’s a Big Club and You Ain’t In It.”